Friday, September 01, 2006

King Henry IV, Part 1 -- Act 1, Scene 3 Reading Blog

When you have finished reading Act I of King Henry IV, Part 1, please post a reading blog for each of the scenes other than the one your acting troupe is performing. Please comment only on Scene 3 of Act 1 on this post. Be sure to label the entry number that you have selected.

Later, come back to the blog and comment on at least one of your classmates' comments. Be sure to indicate which specific comment you're responding to (the person's name), and comment on the appropriate scene's post.

Please complete all three of your comments before we move on to the next act of the play (in this case, before Tuesday, September 12, 2006)

25 Comments:

Blogger Becca S said...

Act 1 Scene 3:

5.)
My reaction to Hotspur is that he seems very confident, a quality that the King obviously envies and hopes to see in his own son, the next King of England. Hotspur is introduced in the novel as the winner of a battle between him and Archibald Earl of Douglas. This victory gives him recognition from the King but also angers the King at him for not delivering the prisoners. However, when the King confronted Hotspur about these prisoners, Hotspur argues himself very well --a quality of the educated in Shakespeare. Hotspur explains that his refusal to give the messenger the prisoners was out of exhaustion and annoyance after battle. When the King refuses to pay the ransom for Mortimer, I like how Hotspur stood up for his friend --I think this not only shows a dependable quality but also shows Hotspur's independence and willingness to stand up for what he believes. This could possibly foreshadow a big role for Hotspur throughout the novel --a strong challenge to the King. After his conversation with the King, Hotspur is enraged at the King. He presents himself as unreasonable when he will not allow his uncle to give him advice and when he says that he will devote his life to annoying the King (he's also pretty funny). When he plans to get a Scottish army together with Mortimer, I think not only Hotspur, but also those advising him, reveal more confidence --confidence to gather an army against the King because of a dispute over one man and pride.

Overall I think Hotspur will play a big role in the play --he demonstrates many leadership-like qualities (confidence, independence, and dependability). He also reveals his more human side --anger, frustration, and humor. I think he's pretty interesting and I look forward to seeing what his role will really be.

Wed Sep 06, 02:11:00 PM 2006  
Blogger Sean K said...

Act 1 Scene 3
6.
The arguement over prisoners in the scene brought up a past relationship between the King and Mortimer. Henry states that to ransom Mortimer would be treason because he betrayed the court by marrying the daughter of Glendow, a traitor. After this statement Hotspur stands up for Mortimer by saying that he simply, "Confound the best part of an hour in changhing hardiment with great Glendower," meaning that they just exchanged favors and that he should not be slandered for revolt. Hostpur later mentions that ,"When I urged the ransom once again of my wife's brother, then his cheek look'd pale...trembling even at the name of Mortimer." The reason for the King's fear is told by Northumberland, which is that Mortimer was the next to the throne to Richard, but that King Henry stole that from him.

The relationship between King Henry and Mortimer could play an important role later in the story. Since Mortimer lost the throne, he could seek revenge and join the rebels. This is supported because later in the scene, Hotspur plans to join the power of Scotland and York with Mortimer.

Thu Sep 07, 07:00:00 PM 2006  
Blogger Molly M said...

Act 1 Scene 3:

4)

My favorite quotation from this scene is when Northumberland says, “tying thine ear to no tongue but thine own!” This expression captures the attitude of several characters in this scene, especially King Henry and Hotspur. Neither of the two are willing to make a compromise, their own ideas are all that they hear. King Henry refuses to listen to Hotspur’s desire for his brother-in-law’s release and Hotspur won’t hear King Henry’s demands for the prisoners. I believe that throughout the play characters are going to have to learn to listen to each other and to not only expect their own desires to be fulfilled. This conflict has already become evident. Now Hotspur seems to want to create disaster for King Henry. The characters will eventually have to discover that compromises are necessary and sacrifices of one’s own wants will also have to be made.

I liked this quotation because I thought it was a really fun way of expressing that someone is too set on their own ideas and aren't even listening to anyone else!

Thu Sep 07, 07:01:00 PM 2006  
Blogger Matt P said...

Act 1 Scene 3

2)
This scene introduces the rebels, shows their discontent with the King, and reveals their plan to usurp the throne.

Without this scene, the rebel's actions would not make much since until much later because they never would have been laid out for the reader. In fact, the reader would be at least temporarily unclear on who the rebels are. The reader would also not understand Hotspur's loathing of the king, his spirited disposition, and his leadership qualaties because his words in this scene reveal much about his character.

Thu Sep 07, 07:28:00 PM 2006  
Blogger Dayna Z said...

Act 1, Scene 3:

#9: The ideas of honor and courage come up several times in this scene, but I’d actually just like to focus on one important instance where they are mentioned. At one point, as Hotspur speaks to his uncle Worcester, he declares, “Send danger from the east unto the west, so honor cross it from the north to south, and let them grapple: O, the blood more stirs to rouse a lion than to start a hare!” (1, 3, 193-196). Hotspur believes that honor will always accompany danger and that it is more courageous to wake a lion than scare a hare. In order to scare a lion, one must put himself in a dangerous situation and muster up courage, thus this task would receive more honor than scaring a rabbit which takes essentially no courage and no danger. This one example alone portrays Hotspur’s belief (one that most of the "world" of the rebels would probably agree with) that courage is required for honor – an idea that will probably be important to the theme and future events in the play.

Thu Sep 07, 07:54:00 PM 2006  
Blogger Steph Zepelin said...

5)
My reaction to Northumberland is that he seems very coniving. He is the one who cooked up a plot to battle against the king. Northumberland enters in the second half of the scene. In a way, he reminded me a little of Poins in Act 1 Scene 2, because both of them come into the scene, plotting something that the King would NOT like. After Henry spends the first half of the scene ranting about the Percy crew, Northumberland comes in (once the king has left) to conspire with his son Hotspu and Worcester to fight against the king. I think this shows bravery on the part of Northumberland because he tells Worcester and Hotspur his plan right after King Henry leaves and he is not hesistant to share his ideas. He sees an opportunity and goes for it.

I don't know if Northumberland will be a commanding figure throughout the rest of the play, but he was certainly a major factor in adding controversy to Act 1 Scene 3.

Thu Sep 07, 08:23:00 PM 2006  
Blogger Kendra W said...

Act 1 Scene 3

5)
My reaction to Hotspur is that he is almost too confident at times. I saw lots of anger and impatience in Hotspur as he spoke and though he may be victorious at battle, his social skills may need some work. I noticed Hotspur using the word "I" frequently and he constantly gave his opinion without hesitation("methinks")instead of taking the time to choose his words. Hotspur is very concerned with his honor and glory, which is acceptable, but I believe he might have trouble in the future if that remains his main focus and concern.

Thu Sep 07, 10:20:00 PM 2006  
Blogger Maya R said...

6.
Hotspur plays up to the king, and the king admires him. However, behind the king's back, Hotspur is very rebellious ;>
The king tells Hotspur to never speak of Mortimer and to send the prisoners. Once the king leaves Hotspur claims that even the devil's roar couldn't make him give up the prisoners. He also says of the king: "I'll have a starling shall be taught to speak nothing but 'Mortimer,' and give it him to keep his anger still in motion."
I just find it interesting that Hotspur is so two-faced. The king won't know what hit him if/when Hotspur strikes out against the king.

Thu Sep 07, 10:54:00 PM 2006  
Blogger sarahg said...

Act 1 Scene 3

#1

The scene begins with an encounter between King Henry, Hotspur, Worcester, and Northumberland. Hotspur is explaining to King Henry why he will not hand over his prisoners. Henry orders Hotspur to hand the prisoners over immediately. Hotspur and Northumberland tell King Henry that a member of the court, claiming alliance with the king, demanded that Hotspur hand the prisoners over to him; Hotspur refused. Hotspur continues to refuse to release the prisoners until King Henry pays to release Mortimer. Henry, in turn, refuses to do this because he believes that Mortimer has is a traitor, and has married a Welsh rebel.

When the king exits, Hotspur reveals his belief that the king would not help Mortimer because the previous kind had named Mortimer heir. Hotspur is also angry because Henry fails to show respect or gratitude to Hotspur's family, who helped him gain the thrown and take power. Worcester then unveils his plan, and tells Hotspur to ally with rebels in Scotland and Whales, and to return the prisoners to Scotland. While he is there, Hotspur must ally with the Scottish rebellion leader, and Worcester will do the same in Whales.

Fri Sep 08, 07:36:00 AM 2006  
Blogger Chaser said...

5)
Hotspur suffers from one of the tragic human flaws: pride. Although he can contain himself, he all too often lets his pride and confidence overwhelm him and he unleashed enraged rants at others. He is also extremely impatience, a parallel to pride. He is successful in many endeavors, but he lacks the humility that would permit him to be able to communicate and get along with others better. I believe that it lies in this weakness that Hotspur is likely to fail later in the play if he does not learn to contain his pride and allow himself to become more realistic with his own standing. In essence, Hotspur's success have brought him great pride, but for now he does not control the arrogance and impatience associated with it in a logical way, which could ultimately lead to his demise.

Fri Sep 08, 02:52:00 PM 2006  
Blogger Stacie C said...

4) Scene Lines, I. iii.
-- "My blood hath been too cold and temperate/ Unapt to stir at these indignities./ And you found me, for accordingly/ You tread upon my patience" (1-4).
--It's interesting that the King says that his blod is too temperate-- it seems almost as if he has been too comfortable in his present position, too comfortable in his authority. Does this foreshadow any sort of change in his attitude, or does he become more assertive in the kingdom and the behavior of the nobility?
--"Worcester get thee gone, for I do see/ Danger and disobedience in thine eye./ O Sir, your presence is too bold and peremptory" (14-16).
-- The King seems to be somewhat paranoid of the intents of those around him. Does his paranoia stem from the idea that since he overtook the throne through revolution, someone else could do the same to him? Furthermore, does this suggest anything about Worcester's real intentions, an ddoes it indicate anything about his influence over Prince Hal?
-- "O let the hours be short/ TIll fields, and blows, and groans, applaud our sport" (297-298).
-- This line follows the typical Shakespearean pattern of a heroic couplet at the end of a scene ,and is voiced by Hotspur during a conversation with Northumberland. Hotspur is excitedly awaiting the next battle, and calls warfare "our sport", indicating that it is a lighthearted entertainment, and demonstrating that he has a cruel nature. Why does Hotspur love battle, and what is his ultimate goal by participating?
--"let my soul/ Want mercy, if I do not join with him. Yea on his part, I'll empty all these veins,/ And shed my dear blood, drop by drop in the dust..." (129-132).
--Why is Hotspur so committed to defending Mortimer? Does his dedication spring from his familial relationship with Mortimer, or is it solely that he believes that the King has used him and other members of the nobility to gain power and will turn on them?
--"And when I urged the ransom once again/ Of my wife's brother, then his cheek looked pale, And on my face he turned an eye of death,/ Trembling even at the name of Mortimer" (139-142).
--The King is terrified of Mortimer because he knows that Mortimer has been proclaimed next in line to the throne, and has been prevented from doing so thus far because King Henry turned the nobility to his favor and used them. Is the King aware of Hotspur's ideas, and how far will he go to protect himself and his crown?

Sun Sep 10, 11:03:00 AM 2006  
Blogger Matt P said...

In response to Maya:
I agree with you that Hotspur is very two-faced, adn the king will not know what hit him when Hotspur turns on him. However, I also assert that the king is blinded to any ill will that Hotspur indends because, in scene one, the king laments over the fact that Harry is his son and not Hotspur. King Henry's high reagaurd for Hotspur is equally to blame, along with Hotspur's two-face skills, for his ignorance of Hotspur's ill will.

Sun Sep 10, 04:14:00 PM 2006  
Blogger Dana A said...

Act 1, Scene 3-
#3 I found this scene to be pretty confusing and one of my questions was-Why does Hotspur not return the prisioners to the king and risk revealing himself for a rebel and shattering the king's perfect image of him? To me this shows Hotspur's hubris that I believe will eventually be his downfall. If the king believe's that Hotspur is good and on his side than that could prove to be a huge advantage for the rebels in actually achieving their plan to take down the king. It just seems to me that Hotspur is decreasing his advantage over the king.

Sun Sep 10, 05:08:00 PM 2006  
Blogger Chennery F said...

Kendra-
I agree with what you had to say about Hotspur. He's so overconfident that it is almost as unappealing to the reader as it is appealing to the king. Furthermore, Hotspur is also incredibly angry in this scene. His self-interests and own emotions make him seem rather childish that could play a big role later on in the play as he goes against the king and Prince Hal begins to prove himself good in the eyes of the king.

Sun Sep 10, 05:50:00 PM 2006  
Blogger Eric W. said...

1) Hotspur is called to meet with Henry about his rebellious behavior in not returning all the prisoners. Henry tells Hotspur to release all of his prisoners. Hotspur is very bitter because he knows Mortimer should be king, but Henry deposed the throne illegally. Henry tells Hotspur never to speak of his name again and to do what he is asked. Hotspur is demanded to go back to Scotland and return the prisoners. Northumberland is asked to get help from York and Worcester to go and handle this dispute with Mortimer.

Mon Sep 11, 06:03:00 AM 2006  
Blogger Eric W. said...

In response to Molly:

I really like the quotation and you are right; these men must listen to one another in order to execute any rational, diplomatic desicion. I believe the lack of communication will be devastating in Henry and Hotspur's lives. Henry should listen to what Hotspur is saying about Mortimer and the prisoners. Neither one of them make any effort to understand the position of the opposing side. This will surely create more conflict than ever needed. But, I also think we must keep in mind that this is war, and that Hotspur does not trust Henry's motives, so why listen? The underlying issue is trust. If they both trusted one another, they would listen to one another.

Mon Sep 11, 06:14:00 AM 2006  
Blogger Lauren M said...

Act 1, Scene 3:
7)
I am Hotspur. I am a pretty cool cat, but I'm kind of mad at Mr. I-have-authority-over-you because he thinks he can run a country better than anyone else. Were it not for my family, King Henry would not even have control of this very country. To think he has forgotten what my family has done for him! Well, I'll show him... my buddies in Scottland will help me show this awful king justice. I guess he doesn't realize that people call me Hotspur for a reason...

Mon Sep 11, 08:51:00 AM 2006  
Blogger Nicole M said...

Act 1 Scene 3

2)

I think the significance of this scene is to portray the dynamics of the rebels as a whole group. It reveals their plans and true feelings about the king, while also showing how they work with each other.
Hotspur, while very passionate and confident, clearly lacks the skills to effectively lead the rebels. There is a great contrast between him and the Earl of Worcester, who is much calmer and businesslike, and is the clear leader of the rebels.

Mon Sep 11, 02:02:00 PM 2006  
Blogger Paige w said...

Hotspur is a hot head. He is overly confident that he can pursuade the king to think his way, and to cool down a little. He gets angry easily and doesn't know how to control these spurts of anger. As soon as Henry leaves, he flares and talks so fast and with such anger that worcester and northumberland can hardly get a word in edgewise. Though Hotspur talks the loudest and the meanest, Worcester rreally has control of the situation. He comes up with the plan, and gets Hotspur to finally calm down.

Mon Sep 11, 04:45:00 PM 2006  
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Mon Sep 11, 04:45:00 PM 2006  
Blogger Paige w said...

I'd like to comment on Nikki's comment. I completely agree with the statement that Hotspur lacks the effectiveness to be a leader. He may be mean and may be a hothead, but he can't control himself, let alone a group of rebels.

Mon Sep 11, 04:48:00 PM 2006  
Blogger Molly M said...

In Response to Eric:

I think that you are very right about the lack of listening is caused by a lack of trust! But why doesn't Hotspur trust Henry? He supported him enough to help him take the throne, so why lose faith in him now? I understand that Henry doesn't trust Hotspur at this point because he is discovering that Hotspur's loyalty may no longer side with him.

Mon Sep 11, 09:13:00 PM 2006  
Blogger Eric G. said...

In response to Dayna's comment. Is this a matter of creating honor for himselef or a struggle against injustice.

I personally feel that Hotspur has good intentions in his rebelling actions. It is Worchester not Hotspur who suggests that if Mortimer were to be restored to the throne that the rebels would be rewarded handsomely. Hotspur seems to be engaged in what he feels is a good cause but is allowing his cause to consume his being. I Hotspur is not careful he could toss away his life and being only to find that the price he has paid cannot justify the rewards.

Mon Sep 11, 09:27:00 PM 2006  
Blogger barbarab88 said...

Act 1 Scene 3

1) In the beginning of the scene, King Henry and Hotspur are discussing Hotspur's prisoners along with the Earl of Northumberland and the Earl of Worcester. Henry is angry that Hotspur will not hand his Scottish prisoners over to him. Hotspur attempts to justify his decision, saying that the man the King sent to demand the prisoners was effeminate and prissy. Hotspur was angry that this man was contrasted against the male scene of the battle and refused. He wants Henry to pay ransom to the Welsh for his brother-in-law, Lord Mortimer. The King refuses stating that Mortimer is a traitor for marrying the Welsh girl Glyndwr. When the king leaves, Hotspur begins to rant that the real reason the king will not pay the ransom is because Mortimer is the rightful heir to the throne. Henry obtained his position illegally, by overthrowing the previous king. Hotspur also believes that the king is in debt to his family because they helped him rise to power. In the end, Worcester suggests a plan to overthrow the king. They are to befriend all the nobels that are dissatisfied and with the rebels of other countries. They are also going to release the prisoners without ransom.

Wed Sep 13, 03:02:00 AM 2006  
Blogger Melissa said...

Act 1 Scene 3

5. This scene really showed me Hotspur. We hear "great" things about him from Henry in Act 1 Scene 1, and our first introduction of him is absolutely overwhelming.

His hotheadedness leaves no room to talk for any of the other characters, and they are even getting frustrated with his overzealous attitude and pompous demeanor. Northumberland even says of Hotspur, "Imagination of some great exploit/Drives him beyond the bounds of patience" (lines 199-200). Hotspur will not rest until he has voiced his opinions about the situation in his country and what they will do about it.

We see his pompous demeanor through each of his speeches (there are lots and lots of those...), and he even criticizes Worcester of aiding Henry Bolingbroke in gaining the throne, "'Sblood!--when you and he came back from Ravenspurgh" (line 246), a move that requires absolute cockiness and pompousness.

I did not like Hotspur in this scene. I thought he was annoying, he never shutup or let the other men get in a single word edge-wise. Unfortunately, I will have to encounter him, since he will play an important role in the story.

Thu Sep 14, 10:20:00 PM 2006  

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